You write, “Konqueror is part of the KDE and claimed to have been the first browser to pass the Acid2 test for CSS rendering compliance (although it has been claimed that it failed to apply a rule properly)”
I don’t recall Konqueror making any such claim. Even then it would have been silly, as development builds of Safari had passed a month earlier:
April 27, 2005: Internal builds of Safari pass.
June 5, 2005: Development builds of Konqueror pass.
October 31, 2005: Safari 2.0.2 passes
November 29, 2005: Konqueror 3.5 passes
Sources at http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2005/11/01/acid2-timeline/
If I point out that the latin classification (Standistus argumentatavum maximus) must be marked up as i instead of em — does that make me a Standistus argumentatavum maximus or am I just an idiot who should go out more often?
Kelson: will have to see if I can dig out that reference<br />
Tomas: Yes, you’ll make a good Greater Standardista. Welcome aboard.
@Davorin: I would have mentioned him more, but he’s just too shy.
I’m pleased to see everyone seems to be taking it in the spirit it was intended, anyway!
Kudos to you, Jack, for putting all of this in such a good light. And kudos to the ALA for publishing it!
Tomas: Don’t forget the lang=“la” on that <i> element ;-)<br />
Mauricio: Funny, like the old “I Love Lucy” episodes.
@Michelangelo: How true!
L is for Lynx, one of the most sophisticated browsers the web has ever seen. Lesser standardistas would have heard of Lynx, but would not have actually used it, as it requires using a command-line interface, and nobody (except for wild-haired geeks with hexagonal glasses) does that anymore. Greater standardistas would claim that no web site can truly call itself accessible until it has been tested on Lynx (by someone else, such as a lesser standardista).
N is for … um … what was that other browser? You know the one – nep … net … something or other. I could have sworn I knew its name in 1998; but now, when I try to recall it, the only thing that comes to mind is a tombstone, with these words engraved on it: this memory has been erased from your brain; for further enquiries, please contact Microsoft support. Oh well, I guess some things are “best left to the past”:http://www.scottandrew.com/ns42002/
Konqueror was not the first to pass Acid2, but rather Safari. A KHTML developer was even quite miffed at the expectation that Konqueror would magically pass as soon as Apple released its changes. WebCore, the Safari rendering engine, is now a separate branch of KHTML.
Konqueror and Safari both used the same rendering engine (kHTML), so distinctions between older version Safari and Konqueror are splitting hairs at best. Supposedly they’re re-converging now.
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H for handcoding:
Let’s face it. Anyone who really wants a great standards-compliant website knows that without handcoding you’re just lost.
Design tools are there to help prototype page design etc… but for the finishing touch keep your “vi” handy.
M for Microsoft:
Microsoft is one of the greatest standard plattform out there. Let’s not forget this.
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retro retro
H for handcoding:
Let’s face it. Anyone who really wants a great standards-compliant website knows that without handcoding you’re just lost.
Design tools are there to help prototype page design etc… but for the finishing touch keep your “vi” handy.
M for Microsoft:
Microsoft is one of the greatest standard plattform out there. Let’s not forget this.
Brilliant Jack! Just the way to end my virtual evening.
One comment about G is for Greyscale…that is so very 1999…in WCAG 2.0 we will get to use the Lumonisty Contrast Ratio….perhaps G can be for Gez Lemon who is my hero for creating the Colour Contrast Analyser Firefox Extension!
http://juicystudio.com/article/colour-contrast-analyser-firefox-extension.php
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Back to the ArticleKelson Vibber
You write, “Konqueror is part of the KDE and claimed to have been the first browser to pass the Acid2 test for CSS rendering compliance (although it has been claimed that it failed to apply a rule properly)”
I don’t recall Konqueror making any such claim. Even then it would have been silly, as development builds of Safari had passed a month earlier:
Sources at http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2005/11/01/acid2-timeline/
Adam Craven
haha, very funny. Here’s a another one: “P is for ‘pinch of salt’, what the article should be taken with”.
Tomas Caspers
If I point out that the latin classification (Standistus argumentatavum maximus) must be marked up as i instead of em — does that make me a Standistus argumentatavum maximus or am I just an idiot who should go out more often?
Davorin Pavliac
Nice joke, man ;)
Of course Z should be for Zeldman.
Jack Pickard
Kelson: will have to see if I can dig out that reference<br />Tomas: Yes, you’ll make a good Greater Standardista. Welcome aboard.@Davorin: I would have mentioned him more, but he’s just too shy.
I’m pleased to see everyone seems to be taking it in the spirit it was intended, anyway!
Mauricio Sandoval
Great compilation Jack!
I love the GrayBit thingy.
I loaded some sites with their engine and besides being helpful as an accessibility tool, it also gives a sense of nostalgia.
Very cool indeed.
N V
Z is for Zen Garden, of course
Michelangelo Iaffaldano
Is it just me, or there are a lot of sites that look far better after you run them through Graybit?
Mike Cherim
Kudos to you, Jack, for putting all of this in such a good light. And kudos to the ALA for publishing it!
Tomas: Don’t forget the lang=“la” on that <i> element ;-)<br />Mauricio: Funny, like the old “I Love Lucy” episodes.@Michelangelo: How true!
John Lascurettes
For users on OS X, “Sim Daltonism”:http://www.michelf.com/projects/sim-daltonism/ is a fantastic tool.
Mike Cherim
Nevermind, that’d be PigLatin I suppose ;-)
Sander Aarts
lang=”~la” perhaps?
Blair Millen
Great article Jack… perfectly balanced.
Jeremy Epstein
L is for Lynx, one of the most sophisticated browsers the web has ever seen. Lesser standardistas would have heard of Lynx, but would not have actually used it, as it requires using a command-line interface, and nobody (except for wild-haired geeks with hexagonal glasses) does that anymore. Greater standardistas would claim that no web site can truly call itself accessible until it has been tested on Lynx (by someone else, such as a lesser standardista).
N is for … um … what was that other browser? You know the one – nep … net … something or other. I could have sworn I knew its name in 1998; but now, when I try to recall it, the only thing that comes to mind is a tombstone, with these words engraved on it: this memory has been erased from your brain; for further enquiries, please contact Microsoft support. Oh well, I guess some things are “best left to the past”:http://www.scottandrew.com/ns42002/
Jeremiah Cohick
Konqueror was not the first to pass Acid2, but rather Safari. A KHTML developer was even quite miffed at the expectation that Konqueror would magically pass as soon as Apple released its changes. WebCore, the Safari rendering engine, is now a separate branch of KHTML.
Martin Vrkljan
Had a good laugh at this one. :) Nice job, Jack.
Jeremiah Blatz
Konqueror and Safari both used the same rendering engine (kHTML), so distinctions between older version Safari and Konqueror are splitting hairs at best. Supposedly they’re re-converging now.
retro retro
H for handcoding:
Let’s face it. Anyone who really wants a great standards-compliant website knows that without handcoding you’re just lost.
Design tools are there to help prototype page design etc… but for the finishing touch keep your “vi” handy.
M for Microsoft:
Microsoft is one of the greatest standard plattform out there. Let’s not forget this.
retro retro
H for handcoding:
Let’s face it. Anyone who really wants a great standards-compliant website knows that without handcoding you’re just lost.
Design tools are there to help prototype page design etc… but for the finishing touch keep your “vi” handy.
M for Microsoft:
Microsoft is one of the greatest standard plattform out there. Let’s not forget this.
R Bhavesh
if A is not for ala, then Z must be for zeldman for bringing this great alistapart. what say u?;)
Cone Tanriverdio
hmm,
for me is G for Google not for Grayscale ;)
greetz
CT
Glenda Sims
Brilliant Jack! Just the way to end my virtual evening.
One comment about G is for Greyscale…that is so very 1999…in WCAG 2.0 we will get to use the Lumonisty Contrast Ratio….perhaps G can be for Gez Lemon who is my hero for creating the Colour Contrast Analyser Firefox Extension!
http://juicystudio.com/article/colour-contrast-analyser-firefox-extension.php
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Z – is for Zealot
Zealot like standards zealot, Maczealot etc.
Andrew Chilton
Whatever people think about Google, they’re big and just getting bigger. I never used to be a fan, but they generally just do things right.
Nice article by the way, really enjoyed it and learnt a few things along the way.
Mark Wyner
This is a great primer for those new to web standards. And it was a pleasant lunch-read for a seasoned veteran like myself.
Nice work, Jack!
Ricky Irvine
Zeldman? O is for Orange book.
Matt Lee
Which open source licenses don’t let you charge for your product?
Jordan Clark
Great work Jack!
I’ll bookmark this to read every time I start taking things a bit too seriously…
Jordan Clark
Great work Jack!
I’ll bookmark this to read every time I start taking things a bit too seriously…