>>>i call bullshit<<<
I smell trollshit.
>>>software engineers don’t know much about design<<<
Design is a fundamental part of software engineering. Without it, you would have a lot of people saying “OK, this is what the software needs to do” and then start coding without thinking about how it should be done. A software engineer knows a good deal about design by definition, or he/she isn’t a software engineer.
Unless, of course, by “design” you mean “graphic design” or “web design”.
And unless, of course, by “software engineer” you mean “programmer”.
(Which is not to say programmers don’t know anything about design. But they don’t necessarily need to.)
>>>look at how bad most software is. and the best part is that most software development happens outside the “established” software engineering theory<<<
See, this is the part that tells me this message was just intended to provoke. The ‘“established”’ theory that “adds nothing to the process” isn’t used for “most software”... and “most software” is bad? Can you miss the connection?